How Did Harry Potter Grow Up To Become A Typical Kid?

I like both endings but they both point to very different directions. In the movie it says “Voldemort was no longer human at all by this point. He was essentially just the shadow and the ashes of what once was a man, and that’s what he turns into after his death.” This ending on the other hand says “Regardless of all his power and intellect. Despite how he defeated death once after his body was destroyed but his soul reincarnated in the body of a monster, and even though he was one of the most powerful wizards of all time in a crusade against death… He was just a mere mortal after all. He was not a perfect being, and he would never be able to take his human limitations out of the way.”

“The bang was like a cannon blast, and the golden flames that erupted between them, at the dead center of the circle they had been treading, marked the point where the spells collided. Harry saw Voldemort’s green jet meet his own spell, saw the Elder Wand fly high, dark against the sunrise, spinning across the enchanted ceiling like the head of Nagini, spinning through the air toward the master it would not kill, who had come to take full possession of it at last. And Harry, with the unerring skill of a Seeker, caught the wand in his free hand as Voldemort fell backward, arms splayed, the slit pupils of the scar- let eyes rolling upward. Tom Riddle hit the floor with a mundane finality, his body feeble and shrunken, the white hands empty, the snakelike face vacant and unknowing. Voldemort was dead, killed by his own rebounding curse, and Harry stood with two wands in his hands, staring down at his enemy’s shell.”

I don’t think a slow death works here. In the book I always liked that it describes his body hitting the floor of the great hall, that stark image of Voldemort’s own curse killing his last body stone dead I always imagined like a gunshot, sudden flash of green light and he slams into the ground, stone cold, dead. That always felt so visceral reading it.

Whoever edited the Deathly Hallows really did a shit job. Taking out Malfoy’s scene where he throws Harry the wand, the scene where Petunia and Dudley reconcile with Harry and give him closure that they don’t hate him, and Voldemort’s death as a normal human was a HORRIBLE decision. The biggest insult to Voldemort is that in the end, he died like a normal everyday human. No grand death. No evaporating into pixie flakes. Just a corpse. Done. Dead. Over.

This is perfect as it emphasizes what the book was trying to say. Voldemort RELISHED in being special and did anything to be more special. Magic was to him a unique gift only worthy of rare beings, and he himself being the rarest of them all. He would have loved a death where he flakes away in the wind as that would be a sign of his unique nature. While the book made it pretty clear instead that no matter how special he wanted or tried to be, when he died he just died like any other person would. He was just another human.

I HATED how they did the ending in every way! The final battle I mean. The Great Hall would’ve been 10x better! “Tom Riddle hit the ground with a mundane finality” The point is despite his attempts of mortality, he was just a man. I don’t understand why they had to do the whole flesh confetti deal..

Honestly, the final film IMO would’ve been much better if it followed the books to the last. Sure some minor changes can be made, but having the whole of wizarding britain/UK (parents of students and such) arriving and fighting the death eaters would’ve made much more of an epic fight than having just the students/school go at them. Such as this scene. I know most haven’t read the books, and they needed to cram as much as possible in 8 movies — would’ve been nice if they kind of did it like with Peter Jackson and the LOTR trilogy.

It makes sense that Voldemort’s body would disintegrate. The soul and physical body are linked – that’s why Voldemort looks the way he does. The less soul you have, the less human you look; and having such little and damaged soul makes it weak and vulnerable which is why a piece of it splintered off after his Killing Curse rebounded in Godric’s Hollow. And as it is vulnerable, so too then is your body. Thus the disintegration of his body in Godric’s Hollow and Hogwarts. “‘And the more I’ve read about them,’ said Hermione, ‘the more horrible they seem, and the less I can believe that he actually made six. It said in this book how unstable you make your soul by ripping it, and that’s just by making one Horcrux!'” – Hermione Granger I understand the reasoning for and appeal of his death in the book, but proponents of it want to have their cake and it eat. They state how Voldemort was less than a man, having lost 7/8 of his soul, yet also say “He was just a man, that’s why he should die a normal death.” They are mutually exclusive. In truth, he was made less than a man by his own choices, and his body’s destruction in Godric’s Hollow reflects that and so his body’s destruction at Hogwarts makes perfect sense.

I like this better. I guess that having him sort of just fall apart helped to get the message across that at this point, he wasn’t really even alive, just an abomination of dark magic that evaporated once the last bit of that magic was spent. But him just sort of dying juxtaposes his high aspirations with an unremarkable end. He dies like everyone else, and that was exactly the thing he’d been seeking to avoid in the first place.

I prefer the original movie ending. It made more sense. Voldemort had torn his soul to pieces. His body was recreated with magic. He was essentially an empty shell. It made sense that when the tiny fragment of life force / soul was destroyed, the body made of dark magic just disintegrated. I see the point people made about the anti climatic death but honestly, I do think disintegrating made sense. His original body was killed many years ago. I think they really did good for that part of the movie

One thing the movie and would make the scene work is the dialogue that was removed from the book, Harry tried to reason with voldermort. Aside from wanting to be immortal, people missing the part that voldermort lacked love and empathy for others. Specially with his origins that weren’t explored, making his death hit heavier in the book. The movie tells us that voldermort use of magic in trying to become something more had stripped him of his humanity.the effect of the rebound turning his body to dust cements how fragile he has really become. He is no longer human, he lost his human body the day he tried to kill Harry when he was a newborn. What was left was A decaying corpse clinging to life, extending itself with the consequences of more of what little remains of him tying this world Crumble until the very end. With no sould and a body made of dark magic, the price comes full circle, he’s unable to escape death this time, as a Fate worst than death awaits him.

Honestly It would have been better to have Voldemort fall not in slow motion but just normal. Voldemort tried so hard his life to be far beyond the ordinary that he didn’t realize the things that actually mattered like kinship and love. Death is the ultimate unifier of the human experience and he constantly tried to run from being human.

I think the way Voldemort’s death should have been shown is a mix between what this alternate scene shows and what we actually got in the movie. A death that is not as dramatic like the normal scene, but still has a bit more spice than this alternate one. After being defeated, I think he should have aged extensively and became very withered and decrepit (similar to what was done in the film, just without the turning to blackened dust part). And then he would fall backwards completely, groan and gasp a few long and harsh breaths, and finally simply die (like what happened in the alternate scene). In this way, his death isn’t entirely all that sudden or anti-climactic and he dies where everyone can see him for what he was: not a Dark Lord, not Voldemort, not He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named…but simply another old man who could not outrun mortality.

I never read the books, but what I understand from these comments, the actual movie version was not what the book actually ended with, and people can see that Voldemort is in a lot more pain in this version. So, I guess seeing the bad guy in more pain probably feels more rewarding for the audience, makes sense.

I would have preferred this. My memory is that in the book Voldemort’s death was sudden and unglamorous – just boom, reflect, hit the floor dead. As much as I loved the films I felt that they made his death more fantastical which, while suiting a cinematic adaptation, took away a little from the blunt reality of his book death.

Anti-climactic, and fitting for sure; however, I still prefer the death he was given in the movie. Sure, he should’ve died as a mere mortal, but he wasn’t a man, not anymore; but a gross abomination of dark magic. Not only his soul was mutilated beyond repair, but his very body was also created using the dark arts. To me, Voldemort disintegrating upon death further accentuates his failure. He didn’t just die, he was quite literally destroyed and vanished without a trace from the world he clung to so desperately.

maybe when the killing curse is repelled, it doesn’t just bounce back and kill the caster but causes disintegration. I believe bellatrix died the same way and so Voldy got snapped out of existence too. Maybe it was Thanos. He might have been revived 5 years later and roaming around in the forbidden forest

He died like a normal man in the books, but I do like the implications in the movie. If the strength of a spell is about the will of the caster, then we can glean from the rebound turning Voldemort to ash that he didn’t just want to see Harry dead. He wanted to see him erased from existence in its entirety.

This is what they should have used because not only did he disintegrate in the film, thereby leaving no body, but there was no one there to fucking see it happen, whereas in the book there was a huge crowd. Now everyone’s going to spend the rest of their lives worrying that he’s going to come back, which Death Eaters will be hoping and praying for.

This and his signature spell (Avada Kedavara) were both overdone in the films. The directors wanted a spectacle, but it just gets creepier if it’s less pronounced. For Voldemort, no glorious magical death as his body turns to ash. He’d just another festering corpse like the rest of us will one day be. As to Avada Kedavara, in the books, it’s more of just you’re living one moment then you’re not. You don’t fly back 20 feet like Cedric did. You just stop living the moment the curse hits you and fall wherever you are. It’s more poignant because it shows how death can come and go without warning or fanfare. One moment somebody is there and the next… gone.

I’ve always complained they made Voldemort’s death over the top, And this fixes every problem i had with it. First it proves it beyond doubt with a body, so no one could start up a cult trying to bring him back and second he looks normal, which is exactly what he wanted to avoid. In short the film didn’t kill lord Voldemort, but this scene shows Tom Riddle dying.

I think the movie death did a good job of portraying that he would now once and for all be incapable of coming back to life. Voldemort’s body had died before but his essence had survived, taking shelter in other bodies and living through his horcruxes. I don’t really like it that much either but now that I think about it it was a good way to convey that 🙂

This is exactly how it should have been. The whole point of the scene (and the series) is that Voldemort has been diminished to his worst fear, a normal person who is not special. JK even said his boggart would be his own dead body. It’s not only necessary as a punishment for him, but also for everyone to see his corpse and know he is dead, which was not the case the first time he “died”. The way it was done in the final film was the complete opposite. It was EXACTLY how you’d imagine him “dying” when he still has horcruxes. He dies in a mysterious way, and breaks apart and drifts into the wind, like he’s everywhere now, floating around, looking for a body to inhabit, just like he did in Albania. Just one of many things they did in the movies that flies in the face of the themes of the book, as well as just common sense, like Lucius trying to tempt Harry with the prophecy by asking him if he wants to know how he got his scar. Harry and the audience have known that since the first book/film. The mystery at that point is the question dumbledore refused to answer: why was Voldemort trying to kill Harry in the first place if his parents were not actually his main target. The film makers were either too dumb to realise that (it was what the entire fucking book was about), or they thought the audience was too dumb to understand. If it’s the latter, maybe they had a point, since everyone loves these garbage movies.

I always hated the death scene in the movie. 1) There was no killing blow. Harry didn’t avada kedavra him, stab him, or in anyway encumber him from living. He merely disarmed him. Then he dies. 2) Disintigrating into ash reduces the emotional impact of the scene. He was this near mythical monster that was so ingrained into the minds of the wizarding society that people were afraid to even use his name. The biggest impact his death could have had would have been to show him lying there dead amongst everyone else. Not some boogey man to be feared, but just a man. That would have been a lot more impactful. The way in which he died, preserves that myth.

I know u guys like this shit because Rowling said she wanted it that way. Its nonsense. What we got was WAY better. Tom didn’t want to be a supernatural god. Nearly everyone in the cast was pretty supernatural. And Tom was head and shoulders above nearly everyone even since his childhood. What Tom wanted, was to be immortal. He saw death as an insult. If supernatural gods could die, Tom won’t give two shits about them. What he sought was permanence. And yet, nothing remained of him. The irony is, the person who sought to live forever, dies in a way that not even his corpse survives. It also captures the beauty of the fact that Tom had split his soul into 8 pieces. He no longer remained human. Yet he was not a supernatural god….he was weak. He was a pile of dust held together in a shape. He was a weakling. It symbolises that there are consequences of dark magic and all the crimes you commit. All of that, takes a toll on your body.

i understand why so many people think this would have been better but hear me out. Voldy was no longer mortal. I mean he was but not human. His body was gone. His real body was dead / destroyed. The form he had taken was made from magic, not a natural body. He soul was a splinter of himself, no longer his whole self. The reason why I do feel like the movie ending was better and still carries the same weight of his end in the books (though not as ironic) is because his body pealing away and turning to dust was and is the final end of his existence. His body could not just “die” because it technically isn’t even alive. The logic in this comes from a broader understanding of Magic and for those curious, JK Rowling did follow in suite to the traditional established general magic lore for different practices of magic even through she invented her own system, method, and so forth that magic was conducted through. If you step out of HP and just take a look into the practices of Litch-craft (NOT NECROMANCY), Voldy is technically a Litch. And before someone barks at me in the comments, Litch-craft (while often associated with or strongly allinged with Necromancy) is NOT the same thing as Necromancy. A Litch’s magic is a bit broader in that it focuses on using some twisted combinations of magic to mutate, deform, and prolong life. Key note on that last subject. One of the more popular aspects of a Litch is Phylactery, which is very very similar to the Horcrux’s that exist in HP. They both do very similar things but through different methods.

I like this version better. Voldemort disintegrated when he tried to kill Baby Harry, because the form of immortality he chose left him a hollow shell, one which could be regrown from any one piece of his soul. With all his Horcruxes destroyed, he was rendered mortal. Having a body to burn/bury gives this a sense of finality, a feeling of reassurance that there’s no coming back this time.

All the people in the comments parroting “it makes sense he should vanish because soul and body are linked…” etc. No it does not, it creates multiple plot holes. There’s no one around to see him die so the only proof Voldemort is dead is Harry’s word. Word of a guy who already saw him turn to dust once qnd somehow live. Also by that logic anyone dying should turn to dust because when you die your soul leaves your body. Also in the movie he dies because Harry slaps the wand out of his hand with expeliarmus, lmao. In the book he clearly dies because his killing curse bounces back at him as Harry is the wand’s master, so the movie even fails to visualise why he died.

I would have liked this scene much better than this CGI gimmick, no doubt inspired by Quirrell’s death in Philosopher’s Stone. But if they had to insist on giving Voldemort’s death something “magical”, they would have been better off depicting Voldemort transforming back into an aged, human Tom Riddle after his death. So to speak, to show that the big bad Voldemort is actually just a mortal human being, no matter how big and powerful he always thought he was.

Honestly…i really never liked the “monster version” of Voldemort. I would’ve preferred he looked Normal but keep his personality. Imagine a well kept,clean, tom riddle, in charge. Then to make the madness worse harry could antagonize him by calling him Tom and Voldemort could get angry and say “that’s not my name”

I prefer this (and not just because it’s book accurate, I watched the movies before reading the book. I still haven’t finished the books, about halfway through order of the Phoenix now) I wasn’t a fan of the way Bellatrix or Voldemort died in the last movie. It made for a cool visual, sure but in Voldemort’s case it took away from the fact that ultimately without his horcuxes he was just an old man and with Bellatrix it took away from the personalness (probably not a word) and intentional brutality of the kill.

So much more satisfying, defense against the dark arts (Expelliarmus) defeats the dark arts (Avada Kedavra), with no wondering what spell backfired on Voldemort, did he use something else, is it the wand, is he now a ghost? this explosion is confusing…so much better to have his body just collapse…

F this. The alternative shots shouldve been focused on harry coming back to life. They just made everything so painfully obvious and for the sake of storytelling via visuals i despise tbat they included dracos mother asking him if harry is still alive and then harry moving when the whole thing was supposed to be hea dead but hell return like nah. He was carried in Voldemorts hands back to hogwarts to be shown as dead, but they so clearly visualised it as if harry was just laying limp with his eyes closed. He didnt need the resurrection stone to play dead.